RFC967 - All victims together

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Network Working Group M. A. Padlipsky

Request for Comments: 967 Mitre Corporation

December 1985

All Victims Together

STATUS OF THIS MEMO

This RFCnotes a significant omission from the networking literature

and proposes to remedy it. Distribution of this memo is unlimited.

DISCUSSION

An interesting thing happened the other day. Some people were up

visiting from IBM Federal Systems Division and, during the course of

the conversation, one of them pointed out that they had just as mUCh

if not more trouble with the operating system purveyors about making

OS "changes" in behalf of networking as anyone else. At the time I

just observed that it looked as if we were all victims together and

went on to the next point, but further reflection prompts me to offer

a few thoughts on the topic to the RFCcommunity:

o To us, it's axiomatic that networking code is system code when it

has to be.

o To Them, it's anathema.

o We haven't really hit very hard on the point in the literature

(although I guess I have made a few strong assertions along those

lines, here and there, and it's at least implicit in some of Dave

Clark's stuff), unless in my usual slipshod fashion I've just

missed seeing it.

o It would probably be responsible of us to rectify the omission

(assuming there is one) since the literature is supposed to be

the way the researchers educate the practioners.

o Therefore, I propose a new subseries of RFCs on how the

networking code was integrated with various OSs, with an eye

toward subsequent publication of the collection in the open

literature (RFCs being only semi-open, after all). I'll even

volunteer to coordinate, at least to the extent of taking offers

from people who are willing to tackle various systems and telling

them who else is having a bash at the same one for purposes of

possible collaboration--and possibly even merging the results of

separate efforts if people just send in things they've already

done. (I suppose I even have to offer to do a bit of editing, if

people want.)

RFC967 December 1985

All Victims Together

What I'd like to see emerge is a bunch of little essays along the

lines of what I attempted to do on Multics in RFC928, pp.14-21,

which would probably be a waste of electrons to reproduce here, but I

will if Jon thinks it's worthwhile at some level. With luck,

volunteers will emerge to discuss all of the major operating systems

currently on the net and most of the minor ones as well, since one of

the most interesting philosophical ASPects of the exercise is to see

just what cuts and pastes get made to any OS if it's networked. My

guess is that given more modern systems' tendencies to make adding

device drivers more straightforward and to offer interprocess

communication primitives at the system level, the likeliest

difficulties to encounter would be getting on the process creation

path appropriately for Telnet--but that's reasoning ahead of the

data. Suffice it to say that each piece should address Host-Host

protocol interpreter(s) integration as well as Host-Comm Subnet

Processor PI (including device driver, if one), plus something about

Telnet and something else about FTP (at least to the extent of

whether it's per-user or "monolithic"--on the server side, that is),

and, of course, some relevant anatomizing of the OS itself.

The moral, it seems to me, is that we have a chance to strike back at

the oppressors by showing them what they should be furnishing with

their silly off-the-rack systems if they are going to continue to

object to our alterations to make the bloody things fit anywhere near

right. It's a little extra effort on our part, but it's probably a

worthy goal. Indeed, if anybody from IPTO is watching I suppose I'd

even go so far as to suggest a pro tem System Integration Task force

if I hadn't already volunteered once in this thing and used up my

quota.

Think about it.

EDITOR'S NOTE

The editor recalls a session at the 5th Data Communication Symposium

(the one at Snowbird) titled "Impact of Networks on Host-System

Design and Architecture". (1977)

 
 
 
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